Newcastle Public Makerspace Name poll

Name ▾▴ Grid Knights ▾▴ Hackernova ▾▴ Hunter Hackerspace ▾▴ Hunter Robot Birthing Clinic ▾▴ Hunter Segfault ▾▴ Make:NCL ▾▴ Newcastle Hackerspace ▾▴ Newcastle Makers ▾▴ Newcastle Makerspace ▾▴ Newcastle TechMakerSpace ▾▴ Newcastle Tinkers' Society ▾▴ Newcastle Warranty Voiders ▾▴ NovaHack ▾▴ NovaSpace ▾▴ Nuts & Tools ▾▴ Stuff ▾▴ TinkerLab ▾▴ Last edit
| Sam L Wed Nov 6 16:01:22 2013
| Toby Thu Nov 7 02:13:45 2013
| Felix ? ? ? Thu Nov 7 02:45:43 2013
| Alan A ? ? Mon Nov 11 03:20:00 2013
| Pok Tue Nov 12 01:41:45 2013
| ned ? ? ? ? ? ? Sun Nov 24 12:08:31 2013
| Alex M ? Sun Nov 24 12:17:41 2013
| Michael C ? ? Sun Nov 24 12:17:45 2013
| Dylan ? ? ? ? ? ? Sun Nov 24 12:29:49 2013
| Sam J ? ? Sun Nov 24 13:02:00 2013
| TheonlyLady? Sun Nov 24 22:55:48 2013
| Kymoie ? ? ? ? ? Mon Nov 25 01:01:12 2013
| Waz ? Mon Nov 25 01:31:58 2013
| Oliver C Mon Nov 25 01:42:15 2013
| Anonymous #1 Mon Nov 25 08:09:55 2013
| steve_w Mon Nov 25 08:10:51 2013
| Adrian Mon Nov 25 09:08:26 2013
| Graham Tue Nov 26 13:33:58 2013
| Remy ? ? Wed Nov 27 14:07:47 2013
| Steven M Wed Nov 27 14:45:59 2013
| Nathan Mac ? Sun Dec 1 03:16:12 2013
| En Dabuwya Sun Dec 22 00:09:17 2013
Total 0 3 13 3 1 5 12 6 15 1 5 3 1 7 1 0 6

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Anonymous said on 06.11., 13:57 

Newcastle communist society for the win!!

Anonymous said on 07.11., 09:21 

Jose brought a good point up - It's interesting how true the "hack" stigma is (how it is associated to something bad/ illegal by 'everyday' people). I asked two random people at work today their general thoughts on what a "Makerspace" is and what a "Hackerspace" is.

The results didn't pan out well for "Hackerspace"

Anonymous said on 07.11., 09:35 

Don't get me wrong, I am a firm believer that the word "hack" needs a cultural overhaul, perhaps there are better ways to go about it then branding the group's name with a term that "usually" needs to be explained for the "average person" to understand properly.

Who knows what the snowball effects could be from generalized misinterpretation (on all fronts.. The community, grants, sponsorships, etc). Just an off-the-cuff thought

ned said on 08.11., 03:49 

There are definite disadvantages, for sure. A couple of practical advantages:

- Clear distinction between the uni and the public groups
- Notoriety - any publicity is good publicity. we may well get a couple of media stories just out of the name.

Also, (for me at least) it's got a bit more of an even balance between software and hardware, which is a balance that I'd like to be able to strike.

ned said on 08.11., 04:14 

BTW, I'm not suggest doing anything that the mainstream media would consider "hacking" (e.g. cracking, breaking security for profit), I think we should avoid that at all costs. But I think that is independent of the name, and the the original meaning of "hacker" is entirely fitting.

Dylan said on 08.11., 10:31 

I think distinction between us and the university is important and like hacker as a word. People we want to attract that would have similar interests would most likely know what hacking is, and if the news picked up on it, the term hacker would garner interest and would be explained. Helps the words reputation as well as our group.

Anonymous said on 11.11., 03:21 

have you thought of the name NovaConstructian?

Anonymous said on 12.11., 01:47 

I think the value of public opinion is not to be underestimated here. As much as the word 'hacker' needs to be redefined culturally, I don't think our name should attempt that. Our mission statement, or credo, can attempt that.

As for distinction from the University space, why do we need to build barriers? I see no harm to either group if we are perceived as associated.

ned said on 12.11., 12:02 

I'm not worried that we'll appear associated, just that discussions about "the makerspace" will get confusing, when people are involved in both spaces.

Remy said on 12.11., 16:55 

Our name is our very most important interface with the general public. So we'd best speak their language.

Adding "tech" or "electro" or something like will likely give a better impression. "TechFixerSpace"?

I would like to see members of the general public with interesting yet probably simple technical problems rock up - like, "How can I rig up an alarm for my work trailer?".

There's a major hole in the market - technical advice not related to products, per se, but just relatively simple technical problem solving. Most people willing to try to do something like that often just need help getting started and finding the right direction to take.

As a Jaycar guy, I got a lot of interesting problems walk in like this - but the upper management didn't like the hit my sales figures took when I took the time to listen and advise. I kept it up a couple of years, because it was in the customer's best interests, and therefore also the companies' (despite the myopia of the middle-management, generally obsessed with business measures long considered out of date.)

It was gratifying to hear my mother tell me, that she had heard "... that there was a guy at Jaycar who could solve seemingly any technical problem...".

I now spend 110% of my efforts on what I know to be a meaningful and important project which otherwise might never get started...

But I do sometimes miss just helping people who show themselves willing to learn to make their own solution.

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Anonymous said on 24.11., 22:57 

I think if this group is having trouble distinguishing itself and the university group, then maybe there are bigger issues at play than just naming. Perhaps your entire approach is merely duplicating what already exists (albeit in a form you're not totally ok with for whatever reasons).
$0.02

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